4th-Walling permissions post!

[skybluejeep]

So Teen Wolf is a show that references other media works, like DC and Marvel Comics. As a result, Stiles has canon knowledge of various comic book characters. To avoid canon-puncturing you and harshing your mellow, I have here a handy-dandy PERMISSIONS POST.

<B>Can Stiles 4th Wall you?</b> <b>If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?</b> <b>Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?</b>

<textarea><span style="color: #bf0206; font-size: 14pt; font-family: georgia, serif;">Canon/Type here!!</span> <b>Taken:</b> Name(s) <b>Wanted:</b> Name(s)

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[escarabajo]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you?
Go ahead!
If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?
As long as Stiles doesn't tell him he's fictional, we're good. Basically Jaime would assume that there's a universe in which he was cool enough to get a comic book. 8Da No secret identity though please-- even if Jaime sucks at keeping it a secret in the first place. .
Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?
Jaime's from several years before Teen Wolf even premiered so nope!

[demon_brat]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you? I think... sort of? Wayne may be a name that has been heard/known. So possibly. Ditto Robin. (Robin probably more than Damian Wayne.)

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?
Remembering previous such discussions where Daddybat has been concerned, that would be a no. Bats keep secret identities until/unless there are in-game reasons otherwise. (Roy may correct me on this one, but I'm pretty sure that's how it went, before.)

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?
Nooot really. :)

[angermanaging]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you? This involves fourth walling the entire Marvel cast, so you'd have to get their thoughts on it. For simplicity's sake I'll say no to fourth walling him as MCU, but if you want to recognize him from a various comic iteration, go wild!

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it? He's welcome to mention whatever you want him to know. I can even give you a rundown on the juicy bits of his comic history if you want fodder. But I can't promise Bruce will react all that positively to any of it. xD

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return? Nope! Bruce is so canon ignorant it's silly.

[skybluejeep]

I've already chatted with Roy! The Wayne = Batfam link is verboten and won't be discussed or known.

[demon_brat]

Awesome! OOC communication is awesome, man!

[skybluejeep]

The way I'm thinking of it is just a tiny bit of 'amnesia' and turtle magic™. For example, I'm fairly sure Stiles has made at least one reference to Hulking Out on Teen Wolf. So encountering Bruce Banner might not ping any memories. But seeing a giant green dude getting his smash on will DEFINITELY do it.

Basically? Until I hear otherwise from individual players, all canon-puncturing references will be held strictly to the Super-Powered alter egos.

[skybluejeep]

Yes it is!

And Stiles would indeed know Robin, as he's made an explicit reference to him in the show. So there's that.

[angermanaging]

Oh no, I'm totally fine with that and knowing him by name and declaring he's the Hulk to all and sundry. Bruce has been getting recognized from people on other worlds that know other versions of him, so he won't be shocked. The fictional thing will be new, but it's not a huge deal. It'd just be the potential of knowing angsty details about his past that would bother him.

But I am SO fine with it. My contingency to respect the rest of the cast's wishes is to limit it to recognizing him from a made up comic amalgamation of his previous comic appearances? So MCU itself doesn't exist to fourth wall from, but some Incredible Hulk comic does. ...If that makes sense.

[demon_brat]

... and then he gets two Robins and a Red Robin...

[skybluejeep]

Absolutely perfect sense. He probably wouldn't be like OMG ERRYBUDDY IT'S THE HULK because he's got at least a little tact. Just a little. And he's a pro at keeping secrets.

So yes, he will reference the comics and not the movies.

[skybluejeep]

Oh, the second he sees any of the Batfam in costume? He's going to have an absolute FIT.

[demon_brat]

MUAHAAHAHAHAH and then he gets the grumpiest Robin...

Maybe.

[tactile_telekinesis]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you?

Kurt: Yeah, although he'll think Stiles is just a big fan of heroes and X-Men etc etc.
Kon: Yup, Kon has had comics and games and cartoon shows.

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?

For both of them, I'd rather not have it said they're fictional?

As said, Kon has had a comic and in his canon point, he doesn't have a secret identity.

Kurt, I'd rather not have his death mentioned, as for secret identity, I don't mind if Stiles knows it. There's not many amazing good looking blue guys around.

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?

Kon would probably know about the original. But none of them are from the right time where the show would be aired.

[angermanaging]

Hahaha oh good, I was trying not to just dump rambling all over you. I KNOW THE HULK IS ONE OF THE MOST REFERENCED CANONS IN OTHER SERIES SO... :>

[storm_warning]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you?
Preferred not. My standard with Ororo is say "feel free" to have a comic analogue of her named Weatherwitch or what have you, but not Ororo herself. She already has enough issues dealing with the fact her 616 rendition is a million times more glamorous than herself that I really don't want to verge into the existentialist crisis of being a comic character.

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?
N/A

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?
She's too early in canon for this to be relevant. ALAS.

[chiot]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you? I doubt Stiles is the type to read Les Miserables but depending on the canon point he PROBABLY has seen at least trailers for the musical but yeah, go for it!

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it? Mention Gav is fictional, he won't really care--Victor Hugo mentions his works in the book himself so he'll just be like 'oh cool I was written about after my death' and that's about it. Totally wish he had an alter-ego tho.

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return? THE FRENCH REVOLUTION DOES NOT HAVE TIME FOR ADOLESCENT WOLF BOYS AND THEIR SIDEKICKS IN SHITTY CARS

[skybluejeep]

HDU

my jeep is awesome and the only car on the show that isn't being blatantly used as product placement

[chiot]

oh my god product placement in twoof is my favourite thing you can make a drinking game out of it

[relentlesstide]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you?
ARTHUR (relentlesstide): Yeah go for it. Just don't mention that he's a ~fictional character~ and keep it to 'hey there are comics about you'?
BUCKY (616, beganwithamask): Same as above. (There are canon comics about Bucky so he wouldn't be too fazed.)

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?
ARTHUR: Lol what's a secret identity. Aquaman don't curr and all his names (Arthur Curry, King Orin, Aquaman) are publicly known. I think I'd prefer to keep the more personal aspects of his life out of the comics Stiles would have read? IE not mentioning there's a comic about the death of Arthur's son or all his marital problems etc. Superhero stuff like throwdowns with Black Manta and Ocean Master, the existence of Atlantis, most of his League exploits, etc are a-okay.
BUCKY: Doesn't really have a secret identity anymore either so nbd. Same as above though, I'd like to keep his known comic book exploits more toward the really old Captain America comics that are actual propaganda comics in canon and less about his actual, government secret history. (Like "you stumbled into Steve's tent and found out he was Captain America" instead of "you were trained by the government to do the dirty work that Cap couldn't"). I can clarify more if necessary! But recognizing him as Bucky and as Cap's partner is perfectly fine, I just don't want "the comics" and "Bucky's actual life" to match up too eerily closely if that makes any sense at all.

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return? Not applicable due to "what r surface pop culture" and "from 1945" respectively. :'D

Aaaand I have no idea if Stiles would know A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones but Renly (loveandloyalty) gets freaked out about little things enough as it is so I'd probably like to avoid fourth walling with him.

[superoverachiever]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you? Ava's super new and pretty obscure so. Would prefer to steer away from 'SHIELD is all a bunch of made-up comic heroes' but she won't freak out much at the idea that there are comics about them, so that'd be alright.

(Or using an alternative. Like SWORD -- oh no wait that's taken.)

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return? Nahh

[langsyne]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you? Yyyyyyyyy please do!

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it? Considering that Scott doesn't really have a secret ID anymore and that Fraction and Allred showed up as themselves in the last issue of FF to write a comic about the FF (FF-ception??) I don't think there's anything Stiles can't/shouldn't mention. There's not that much that'll make Scott go 'wtf' though he might ask if the comic about him is any good...

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return? I'm pretty sure Scott is too old-school to watch stuff like Teen Wolf. 8|

[onefouroneseven]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you?
Soranik Natu - SURE

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?
Soranik doesn't have a secret identity because those are for LOSERS ON EARTH. Feel free to mention that the Green Lantern Corps are a thing (if it's okay with Zee for Kyle), but nope on the 'so you're a fictional character' and any information regarding her biological father/in depth plot details on the comic events.

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?
LMAO Soranik has probably never watched a single Earth TV show in her life, so nope!

[bridgetothemyscira]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you? Totes okay! For both Traci and Diana

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it? lmao what are secret identities with these girls. Anything is fine with me for both of them.

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return? Nope! Traci's from roughly 2007 or something and Diana probably isn't a telly person unless she's watching the news.

[crotcharrow]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you?
WHY NOT. I'd like to stay away from the fact that Tommy only exists as a comic book so as long as no 'you're only in fiction dude' things are mentioned, Tommy would probably be pretty chuffed he's in a comic book. But yeah, Tommy is Speed from Young Avengers. Scarlet Witch is his mom. go for broke, Stiles.

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?

Tommy's really bad a secret identities. It doesn't really matter if it gets out who he is. But he should probably stay away from knowing about Tommy's stint in juvie unless he wants a smack to the face. Tommy doesn't like talking about it, and will be freaked out someone knows about it.

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?
Tommy wouldn't watch Teen Wolf! :(

[imaginate]

Can Stiles 4th Wall you? Sure, go ahead.

If so, what shouldn't he ever mention? Can he know your "Secret Identity" and swear never to reveal it?

He can say he's heard of GLs/the Corps, but no telling Kyle he's fictional or details of his life because he'd freak out at that :C Also, he doesn't have a secret ID on the turtle.

Do you want to 4th Wall Stiles in return?

He lives in space and doesn't know what Teen Wolf is....